Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei[FuktLogik] [DVD]  

If by 10% you mean around 90%, then maybe.  If you'd bother to do an actual side by side comparison instead of going by memory, ( which clearly yours is as bad as your attitude) you'd notice that the only things I left out were utterly pointless signs and things that would have been impossible to softsub, which might, on a good day, add up to that missing 10%.  I for one should know how close my version comes to the a.f.k one, after all, I fucking transcribed the entire thing word by hardsubbed fucking word into my own scripts.  Also my version uses the DVD source complete with all the redrawn scenes which means half the blackboard text was no longer compatible with the original translations.

So yeah, do your research before getting all "holier than thou" on my ass.

Ah, but this is my point precisely - the notion that signs are "utterly pointless" is simply not true for this anime. Aside from the fact that at least some signs are clearly meant to be read even during normal viewing, they are an important part of its charm. And it is not only my personal opinion: I refer you to Wikipedia, second sentence under "Anime". I refer you to ANN, "trivia" section. I dare you to find one noteworthy review that does not mention the signs. I dare you to find one fan that does not have an opinion about them - except of course for those who watched solely your version. Would faithful subbing not give new watchers at least a chance to determine if they like them or not? As it is, they can see something going on in the background and have to wonder, "Am I missing something important?". And by deciding about that for them on your own, you are asking for a lot of trust.

Besides, from the mathematical standpoint, this much text has to amount to at least 50% of total language used. I stand by my earlier assertion.

Additionally, you have not addressed my primary concern, i.e. "funny facts" over the artwork. I refer you specifically to 23:35 of episode five; "All subripping and no play make Jack a dull boy", pasted about ten times, in bold letters, over beatuful artwork of Komori-san. In all honesty, this was what made me stop watching. Curiously, you basically provided your own version of a "pointless sign" that you seemingly hate. If you think I don't want or need to read blackboard signs, what makes you think I would appreciate this?

This is intended as a constructive criticism and not a personal attack against you. It is my every hope that comments like mine may make you become a better subber, subripper, or whatever it is that you are. I am also concerned about people that will come to know SZS exclusively through your version, which I percieve to not be doing justice to source material. I really don't care what you think of my memory nor attitude, but I do hope to make you at least partially share my point of view.

Nasty headache, so I'll keep this rather short.

My definition of a pointless sign is the word trash on a trashcan.  If there is relevance to the anime, the scene, or is just amusing then I don't find it pointless and will almost always typeset it.

As I mentioned before, there really isn't much missing, and that that is missing is usually without a translation due to DVD edits.

As for obstructed fanart, remember you can turn the subs off.

As for sharing your view, I do like it when a job is done right, like gg's Maria Holic, but that kind of typesetting is beyond my skill and patients, or most other groups for that matter.  Aegisub can only do so much, and one of the reasons I started FuktLogik at all was to have fully softsubbed DVD releases.  If I were to learn to use Adobe FX and encode signs into the video itself they would certainly look top notch, but would also negate one of my main reasons for doing this stuff in the first place.

Now drugs and sleep.

why have 2 SD Torrents of the same series?
seeing as this is just the AFK subs on a slightly better res video one not just keep one or the other

Because that would make sense.

~Scout

ah great series

This is a very weird show. I couldn't figure out whether it was hilarious, disturbing, or a little of both. Regardless, it's a fun anime to watch, though it's definitely not for everyone.

Didn't a Blu-ray version get released in late March? If only there were subbing groups who would use that for a source.
Then we wouldn't have the problem of 2 SD torrents here.

I felt like saying to the guy "why so serious".

"nonA" has just released a version with Bluray source and (edited ?) Fuktlogik script, available on Nyaa. I have some episodes from a pre-completion release, checked briefly one episode and saw that for example the blackboard text (japanese) behind Sensei changed several times with no translations.
To my taste there is no "Definitive Version" of this anime yet. I'll keep both a.f.k's and Fuktlogik's releases. Greedy, I know  

The BD versions are horrible, in the sense that they aren't BD, at least the versions from Zero-Raws. Maybe this was due to bad processing of the BDs, I don't know, but they are functionally the same or slightly worse than the DVD rips. Unless a better source appears, there is no point in getting the BD versions, they just take up more space on your disk.

^Thanks for clearing that up. Looks like I'll have to make do with SD.

protocol4 encoding says the blu-ray source is indeed horible. Check it out:

http://protocol4.animehr.com/?p=454

I myself was going to pick up the BD rips on Nyaa, but after spot checking the first ep I saw that the video stuttered like all fuck during the panning sequences and there was no noticeable clarity compared to the DVDs.  Sad, since this show has a great deal of detail.

If you'd bothered to read previous comments, you'd know that a.f.k. has:

* TV censorship that has some amount of lulz value.
* More complete translations, in the form of more translated signs and the presence of song translations.
* Useful TL notes on character names at the ends of some episodes.

At least one episode in this release uses subs from another group, so it's not entirely "just the AFK subs on a slightly better res video."

So a.f.k. has reasons to stay, though of course this release can't be completely discounted due to being DVD quality, somewhat uncensored, and softsubbed. And subjectively, many will like the delocalization that the afk subs were put through.

i cant seem to play in this in MPC can anybody help ?

Wish this had all the notes in afks Fukt, then my OCD could be satisfied   In all seriousness, I plan to watch it first with theirs then archive yours, shhh...

ummm.... i know this may be stupid... but is this anime dubbed in english? my friend can't read the subtitles on anime. his eyesight isn't quite good enough.

This may be a bit late I realize, but as of the first episode, there were several subtitle mistakes and the video for all the episodes I previewed is not cropped correctly, resulting in black space on the left and top of the frame.

Don't mistake my comment for nastiness, the video itself is awesome -- I have seldom seen BD rips, less long DVD rips that play so smoothly. It seems a little blurred, but I assume that's the source.

I feel like the subs, especially signs and flyoffs, were done a little hastily. They don't match the video by color and they are far sharper than the video itself. Both of these can be fixed easily, though with so many signs it's very time-consuming.

Overall, I'd give this release 4/5, though my opinion may not count for much.