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Ao no 6-gou | Blue Submarine No. 6 - 1080 [OZC-Anime]  MultiaudioLosslessHigh Definition

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Type: OVA
Size: 6.26 GB (6,722,008,636) bytes
Completed: 3511 time(s)
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Snatches: 6900
per Day: 6.994
Added: 17:46 pm on October 5th 2010
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Peers: 35 peers - 33 seeders - 2 leechers
Last Activity: < 1 min
Last seed: < 1 min
Uploaded by: Xtras

Last edited: 1 year and 10 months and 21 days
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Xtras

September 16th 2010 (2 years and 9 months and 1 day)
The Japanese Blu Ray has the Subtitles and the English Dub. In OZC's words, we released this because the Blu Ray beats the DVD. Yes it is an upscale, but take a look for yourself at how it looks. And everyone loves their FLAC it would seem lol so enjoy those .MKAs. Both the English and Japanese were uncompressed on the BD so I'd say there is improvement in that as well.
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Mirek

September 16th 2010 (2 years and 9 months and 1 day)
Honestly the BD looks terribly filtered. Also a problem with FLCL bd, so I heard.
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TakeshiDonator

September 16th 2010 (2 years and 9 months and 1 day)
» Mirek
Honestly the BD looks terribly filtered.

This. Could we see a comparison between this and OnDeed's R2J rip?

Also, please add audio bitrate for the AAC tracks.
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OnDeed

September 16th 2010 (2 years and 9 months and 1 day)
This upscaling treatment seems to me to resemble the worse fansub/ripping practices out there...
Ramping up color saturation, smoothing (a lot), warpsharping. Glorified oilpaint I'd say.

I'm pretty sure that if you upscaled the r2j DVDs using nnedi3 (and used some form of gradfun/addgrain to hide the banding), teh result would be much better.
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Xtras

September 16th 2010 (2 years and 9 months and 1 day)
» Takeshi
Could we see a comparison between this and OnDeed's R2J rip?
Sure, they'll be up by this afternoon hopefully if I can get my agenda for today finished.
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Lenmaer

September 16th 2010 (2 years and 9 months and 1 day)
Anyone got the DECAY BD 1080 raws? To see how those are.
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TheProfileth (Dual-Duality Leader)

September 16th 2010 (2 years and 9 months and 22 hours)
GOD THIS LOOKS TERRIBLE not actually the fault of OZC  of course  :innocent:, but I do wonder why you would release a 1080p of an obviously upscaled source? I mean atleast a 720p might of been passable but this is definitely just ugh  :no:
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Xtras

September 16th 2010 (2 years and 9 months and 21 hours)
» TheProfileth
GOD THIS LOOKS TERRIBLE not actually the fault of OZC  of course  :innocent:, but I do wonder why you would release a 1080p of an obviously upscaled source? I mean atleast a 720p might of been passable but this is definitely just ugh  :no:
I know right. The color saturation, warpsharpening, and just general overfiltering. Hell, it looks a lot like the "encodes" you tend to put out.  :-D

Now tell me how any of the aforementioned problems would be mitigated by doing a 720p encode? The source is just like that, but considering that it does have lossless audio and it is somewhat better suited for an HDTV we went ahead and released it. We'll probably do a 720p later on anyway, but for now lets just see if the mods feel this has a place on BBT.

I'll get the screenshots as soon as possible. I'll need to catch someone else to download it and put up screenshots though, since I'm unable to do it.
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OnDeed

September 16th 2010 (2 years and 9 months and 21 hours)
» Xtras
[...] it is somewhat better suited for an HDTV [...]

Well it's not like I wanted to bitch or anything, but are you really sure about that?

/ Moreover, you mentioned lossless audio... however, using spectral band replication AAC (only meant for low bitrates, bellow-transparency level lossy compression) in this rip, that isn't going to help you know. Actually, isn't that even parametric stereo being used in the english audio (well, dub...) /
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Xtras

September 16th 2010 (2 years and 9 months and 21 hours)
» OnDeed
» Xtras
[...] it is somewhat better suited for an HDTV [...]

Well it's not like I wanted to bitch or anything, but are you really sure about that?
Lemme get someone to put up those comparisons and I'll show you what I mean. I did take a look at the 480p BluDragon release on my TV and I have to say that even with the overfiltering issues mentioned, I liked the 1080p version just for the lack of artifacts and blurriness. Perhaps you could say that it is an an opinionated thing, but before we call final judgement on this, lets get those screenshots.

» OnDeed
/ Moreover, you mentioned lossless audio... however, using spectral band replication AAC (only meant for low bitrates, bellow-transparency level lossy compression) in this rip, that isn't going to help you know. Actually, isn't that even parametric stereo being used in the english audio (well, dub...) /
points at FLAC folder with .mka's
I should add that into the description actually. One sec.
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OnDeed

September 16th 2010 (2 years and 9 months and 21 hours)
Oh... sorry, I got the scheme afterwards and decided to not post anything at all... or so I thought :D it got here somehow.
Disregard that, please.
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Xtras

September 16th 2010 (2 years and 9 months and 21 hours)
» OnDeed
Oh... sorry, I got the scheme afterwards and decided to not post anything at all... or so I thought :D it got here somehow.
Disregard that, please.
Lol, no my mistake really. I reused one of my previous descriptions and forgot to mention the external audio files in the description itself. But yeah, they are in the .mka so people who want it have it and people who don't can just skip them and still seed. IIRC the mods said this format was good in an earlier forum post, though which one is evading my memory.
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OZC (OZC Anime Staff)

September 16th 2010 (2 years and 9 months and 21 hours)
» OnDeed
/ Moreover, you mentioned lossless audio... however, using spectral band replication AAC (only meant for low bitrates, bellow-transparency level lossy compression) in this rip, that isn't going to help you know. Actually, isn't that even parametric stereo being used in the english audio (well, dub...) /


Yes, the HE-AAC is a lossy compressed audio. That's why, as Xtras mentioned, there are FLAC files included for people who want lossless. Perhaps the description should be updated to reflect that they are in the FLAC folder in the torrent (I realize not everyone looks at the file list).

I like small filesizes, especially when I don't hear a damn difference between the HE-AAC and the lossless. However, because I understand that not everyone has the same opinions of the audio as I do, I've started doing lossless audio as optional add-ons. Xtras suggested we just throw them into the torrent along with the episodes instead of leaving them as a stand-alone download, so that's what we did. On the other side of the coin, there are plenty of people that are like me and don't hear a difference. The way I see it is, with people who have limited monthly bandwidth, it's easier to use smaller HE-AAC in the primary release and offer the larger FLAC separate, than making the FLAC a required download as part of the file.

As for the filtering, as far as on my end, the only filtering I did was a very light denoise (it was already pretty clean) and then a sharpening to clean up the edges from the denoise pass. Any additional filtering, especially the Q-TEC filter used for the upscale, was done by Bandai Visual.

EDIT; Got beaten by more than a few minutes. That's what happens when I type replies at work.
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TheProfileth (Dual-Duality Leader)

September 17th 2010 (2 years and 9 months and 19 hours)
» Xtras
I know right. The color saturation, warpsharpening, and just general overfiltering. Hell, it looks a lot like the "encodes" you tend to put out.  :-D

haha very funny   :rolleyes:

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OnDeed

September 17th 2010 (2 years and 9 months and 19 hours)
That Cutie Honey pic does resemble the effects of qtec, tho :) (I know, that is a compressed raw.)
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TheProfileth (Dual-Duality Leader)

September 17th 2010 (2 years and 9 months and 19 hours)
» OnDeed
That Cutie Honey pic does resemble the effects of qtec, tho :)

I would not go that as far as to say that it resembles it, but it does have some of the edges being weird (which was basically an issue with the source where you had issues with things such has floating halos and weird lines and the like, something to do with the fields overlaying onto each other at the edges giving the impression of floating halos and weird ass lines ,atleast that is my educated guess) either way I am quiet proud of both of those encodes. (which reminds me I need to upload episode 2 of RE Cutie Honey *me runs off to finish busy work*)
Edit: What about a compressed raw? My good sir, THAT is what the DVD looks like.
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OnDeed

September 17th 2010 (2 years and 9 months and 18 hours)
DVD? Huummphh... Well, in that case, the combs on the mouse out pic smell like a failed ivtc to me.
P.S. Seems I mistook it for the wmv raw that floats the web, but that one is 704x396.
In any case, the flaming should refocus back at OZC's rip's look I'd say. (Edit 3: funny how I keep saing irrelevant/wrong/digressing stuff today.)
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TheProfileth (Dual-Duality Leader)

September 17th 2010 (2 years and 9 months and 18 hours)
» OnDeed
DVD? Huummphh... Well, in that case, the combs on the mouse out pic smell like a failed ivtc to me.
P.S. Seems I mistook it for the wmv raw that floats the web, but that one is 704x396

I feel like this might accidental take over comments will continue in PM  :-D
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OnDeed

September 17th 2010 (2 years and 9 months and 17 hours)
To atone for my thread misguiding, here is a comparison - two of those pics (02,03) should be frame accurate since it is a pan.

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/517/ondeed01.png
http://img816.imageshack.us/img816/586/ondeed02.png
http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/7738/ondeed03.png

(Grrr... damn comparescreenshots won't work.)
Edit: I forgot... OnDeed screen taken with ffdshow, software scaling used; Lanczos4 for luma and Lanczos3 for chroma.