Ao no 6-gou | Blue Submarine No. 6 - 1080 [OZC-Anime]  

Oh, thanks a bunch for those. Much appreciated. Anyways, now its just left for the mods to make a call. Lemme try and load those into comparsionscreens for you. One sec.

Edit: http://comparescreenshots.slicx.com/comparison/80309

Great, it refused to finish for me...
I'm quite intrigued as to what do people think about this...

Hmm well, now that is disappointing, the lines look so damn ugly I would have to opt for the DVD being upscaled over the BD encode  :'-(

While I'm the first to agree that the Q-TEC effects leave a lot to be desired, for me, the sharpness offsets the sheer amount of blur of the DVDs any day. That, of course, being my opinion alone.

What you get there however is every softness removed, leaving only hard borders behind. Screen 1 for example is sunset - blasting every line into dark hard-border solid edge makes it look very unnatural (well, that is a general problem with sharpening and line darkening; anyway softness isn't you enemy, sharpening isn't going to restore missing detail).
Then there are the geometry problems - lines get wavy, regular patters get rounded (see the harbor cranes).

Well the important thing is that the BD image absolutely lacks harmony, naturalness and the artistic feel a hand-drawn image gives. MHO.

Sure, but would you say that blurry DVD image has "harmony, naturalness and the artistic feel a hand-drawn image gives". The other thing to consider is that this is a show about mutants, machinery and a bunch of underwater fighting scenes with tons of action thrown in. The longer this show goes on, the more of it becomes CGI anyway. You must surely concede that this show has way more computer generated animation than your typical anime.

Besides, the 480p will remain regardless. The question here is whether or not the 1080p offers any advantage and is it worth having to which I'd answer yes for the reasons of FLAC audio, and because when I watch it on TV it is easier for my eyes to follow everything.  Especially during the combat scenes with everything in motion the 480p just didn't cut it, but then again I was watching the BluDragon version.

That's the point... I hereby explicitly claim that it does.

PS. The show was made in CG, but characters and 2d backgrounds are still human-drawn. Also, If the arguably soft dvd is "blurry", it is certainly a smaller-grade problem compared to the oilpaint@photoshop effect of the BD.

I didn't mean to oppose your upload in any way (since I'm your competition I'm absolutely not entitled to), all my arguing is about the actual look of the bluray "transfer" itself.

Well, I'll just toss in the opposing view as I've heard it from other people to your and TheProfileth's comments:
"Sure, if the artist was having a seizure and simultaneously smudging half of his lines as he drew them. Absolutely harmonious, if my eyes feel at ease thinking they have subtle cataracts in them and I have to focus more than usual to differentiate objects on the frame. And definitely natural feel of a hand-drawn image for a show that has more CGI than any other anime that readily comes to mind. "

Anyways, we don't need this many comments rehashing the same idea. If people feel it isn't natural enough, they can just go download the 480p. Does the 1080p have anything of enough total value that grants it space on this site, or does the fact that it supposedly lacks "hand drawn feel" automatically disqualify it? Answer that question.

That's just it. You aren't competition. These two different versions cater to people with different preferences. The only question remaining is, does this version have enough of its own merit in attracting an audience so to speak to allow it on BBT.

My position is the bluray looks horirble, nothing more, nothing less.

I agree, I think that filtering the DVD too AND upscaling much would still yield a better result
Also Xtras before you get all high and mighty with us, maybe you should look at the recent rejected offers, multiple of which where 1080p encodes where there was no benefit of having the BD with a source
Also if you want to really prove your case, get some screens from the CGI segments, I want to see how they look with the Q-TEC filter

Bottom line is: cel > digital.

(comments about his Mahoromatic that doesn't exist yet)

i don't see where you get off calling Xtras all high and mighty, when in fact, you pull it off way better than he does.

Can we please keep the flaming and group bashing out of here? Seriously, let's stick to what actually matters here, and at this point, about all there is for me to respond to anymore is if anyone asks for assorted information about the encode. Nothing else I can say changes what's been offered so it's pretty much down to the mods now. Bashing Pro over his encodes or lack thereof or whatever doesn't do anything to help the decision process.

sorry. won't happen again. i just had to say something cause he always states how poorly everybody else does when his group in fact does an even worse job cause they don't encode anything that they promise.

You know, I actually did not say OZC did a bad job at all, I said it was the source that was to blame, nobody here is blaming OZC seriously the only thing we are blaming is the Q-TEC filtering on the BD

I agree that the offer should be judged solely on it's merits.  The pointless discussion of your personal opinion of the source is irrelevant.  The mods who make the final decision are aware of the source and make the decision accordingly.  If you don't like the offer, then don't download it.  Plenty of other people will who will be happy with it.

I do agree with joseole99 though.  TheProfileth is one of the worst encoders out there but is always quick to open his mouth about other peoples work.  Since he's considered a joke anyway, it's just funny.

Why exactly do ALL offers on BakaBT have to turn into shitstorms. Its like people don't know the difference between constructive criticism and being a douche. I don't mean to add fire, but seriously... people need to act their age. This is one reason why I told myself never to offer an upload on here, but I will help seed which is my ratio is more than 15.  

Anyway I watched this and thought that OZC did a good job, like always. No I don't have "encoder eyes", but this is coming from an everyday person who respects material in high quality. Good job OZC.

The comments aren't just for feedback, or maybe trying to influence moderators...
Imho they are also important for leechers, to get information about the releases before they blow their badwidth on them.

I agree with you on your opinion, but after reading people's comments on offers, not on this one, some people try to passionately rant how inferior someone's offer is (I'm thinking in particular of one person that I think is just a jerkoff). I'm going to stop here because I know this offer is waiting for final judgment by the mods. Peace.  

Right, get information about the quality of the show, or if the uploader messed up the description or if the encoder made some flaw or things like that. Complaining about how the show is mastered in Blu Ray ... repeatedly ... despite there being screenshots for the leecher and mods to evaluate ... wouldn't you say that is just akin to forcing your opinions upon other people. If there were 20 people that all said they hated how it looked, I'd have no problems. If there are two people who combined contribute 20 comments about how they hated it, that is when I start to have a problem. That is what MojoX is talking about.

Take it from Takeshi and Mirek, they commented once or twice, and stated general things which can lead to other people making their decisions. Good, constructive comments. I can't really say the same about you and TheProfileth. In your case, I'd say the screenshots you posted were very useful. What about all the other comments? Do they really provide any new insights or details to the leecher reading them?